I went to the Lake Elsinore park yesterday to check it out. It was small, but set up pretty well. The surfaces are fast but grippy. The mini ramp is about 1/2 to 1 foot bigger than the vans mini mini ramp (orange) and it's about 24 feet wide. The park is well designed for what it has. You are able to set up some cool lines. All in all, only worth going to if just happened to be driving by.- Shale Wooden ramps, quarter pipes, ledges, etc., 17,000 sq. ft public park covered skatelite pro surfaces ... helmets required.