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| ICONOCLAST(S) / JOSH BORDEN |
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Josh and Mary Chain. Worst caption ever.
Much has been made of image in skateboarding. It sort of comes with the territory, and probably has been intertwined with skateboarding since about 1977. Image can help or image can hurt. Brad Bowman's color coordination, Darrel Miller's argyle socks, Duane's converse high-tops and peroxide spikes. These guys were the archetypes. Nowadays, most people seem to emerge from some previously used mold. Fresh, hesh, punk, emo, goth, hippy, whatever. So what happens when you encounter a youngster who just seems like your average nice kid, not flamboyant or fashion conscious in any serious way, and doesn't conform to some sort of subcultural stereotype or dress code? Further confusing is that for as mellow and and mild-mannered this kid is, he just happens to skate like a bat out of hell. Not the comic book hell with cartoon devils and flames, but the one where dark and disturbing shit goes down, kind of more like Hellraiser hell. How does this happen? It happens because Josh Borden is just, plainly put, a nice young man. It's been said that nice guys finish last, or maybe that nice guys finish 7th. But in the contemporary world of skateboarding there is room at the top for a nice guy and Josh is sliding in there, nicely.
Chad Jackson of Small Beating hosted Josh and CD for a 2 day skate hellride that took us beyond any reasonable frontier of sanity, so it was only fitting that we conduct the interrogation of Josh with Chad present and actively involved in a portion of the questioning. The following is what transpired in Chad's garage skate-plex, as well as pointed questioning on the road to and from norcal.
Starting it off with a bonky tail grab Smith on a janky backyard extension...
...and a little picturesque meat from the street, postcard style.
CD: Alright Josh, let's get this thing going...
(Josh is lost in texting his girlfriend)
JB: Huh? What?
CD: You realize when we transcribe this, we're going to distort all of your answers right?
JB: Oh man, maybe I don't want to do it.
Chad Jackson: Hell, Borden, what is it that we need to find out about you?
Josh Borden: Dude, I don't know... I'm laying in the bottom of this bowl, in the garage...
CD: Well yeah but what are you gonna do?
JB: A 540.
CJ: Yeah, it's just like an invert huh? I'm gonna do those...
CD: Josh gets them going so clean, landing with his wheels right at the tile. You already have those. Proper. Proper in the same way that Lance does them proper.
CJ: Yeah you skate a lot with Lance don't you kid?
JB: Well, I wish I could skate with him a lot more.
CD: You need to get out and skate his pool, that one that doesn't really exist. Lance is so fun to ride with.
JB: I've never been there, I want to go...
CD: Are you saying you would fan out on him?
JB: I don't think I'd fan out on anybody really, I don't know.
CD: Not even Tony Mag with his steering wheel video rig and that bushman hat?
JB: Aw man, what? I don't ... I can't... no comment.
CD: Okay let's move on, so, you're a professional skateboarder...
JB: What? No.
CD: Okay, you're a skateboarder who enters pro contests and wins money, are we missing the point? There are certainly so-called professional skaters who do a lot less than you do. How are you not?
JB: I'm just not.
CJ: You cashed those checks though right?
JB: Oh yeah, for sure. but still, I'm not. What's your definition of a pro? I don't have a pro model.
CD: Well you're skating and you're getting paid, in any other discipline, you'd be considered pro, no olympics for you buddy.
CJ: Well let's take it a step further, some clown starts up some company that makes a ton of money off of your name so they say you're pro, maybe you don't measure up, but you're pro, that would suck right? But here you are, the other pro guys consider you a pro, Miller thinks of you as a pro...
JB: I just don't consider myself pro. I consider myself a skateboarder, I don't think about it in pro terms. I mean it would be cool to be a pro, if and when it happens but I don't think I am that now. I don't have a model either.
CD: Is that your goal, to become "pro"?
JB: I guess it's a goal, I really just want to do the best that I can. I'd be stoked if it happens. Skateboarding is the shit, it's just what I want to do.
Boneless blast off the blocks at Pedro.
This transfer at Solvang is pretty dicey, go there and you'll understand.
CD: So now that you're getting the flow hook up from Santa Cruz, are you going to swoop in and resurrect their whole vert program?
JB: Well, there aren't any vert ramps near me since the Vans ramp got taken down...
CD: I meant more in the sense of vert, pools, bowl skating, that all-terrain thing it's a deep part of their history.
JB: Well they have some heavy dudes already, just look at E-Man (Emmanuel Guzman) That guy is so good and full all-terrain, they have Justin Strubing too, he kills it all-around.
CD: I guess what we are getting at is that for a long time Santa Cruz was the heaviest with vert and pool and bowl guys, from day one, starting with Olson, DP, Salba, they carried that heavy vert thing into the early 90's but then it seemed like they went almost exclusively street. It would be so sick to see a new young crew of vert, pool and all-terrain guys come in and bring back that thing that Santa Cruz was always known for, way back when.
JB: Well I'm stoked to be connected with them, I always thought Santa Cruz was one of the most core companies, top 3 always.
CD: So let's talk about your Knott's Berry Farm experience for a minute...
JB: (silence, pained facial expression)
CD: Aw c'mon man, give us something on it...
JB: Well Moffet's doing it and Moffet's sick so... That's all I'm saying. Fuck alright, I'm making money, I'm not ashamed of it, and I get to skate this nice vert ramp every day. It's close by my house, and there isn't another vert ramp unless you go all the way down to San Diego...
CD: Well that's sort of the point right? As much as someone might clown you for it, the reality is that 99.999% of all the people in skateboarding will never make a dime doing it, but here you are, getting paid to skate, who cares about how it's formatted? It's just your summer job anyways, like a paper route, or babysitting, or mowing lawns...
JB: Yeah, I mean I'm out there getting paid to learn new tricks.
CJ: Well also, I see what Matt Moffet goes through every day to do the shows, he literally goes to work. Several hours a day, 5 days a week, and you have those routines where you have to nail your tricks, do airs over people, it's not really a laughing matter.
JB: I don't do that rehearsed shit as much though, I just skate, I drop in after someone falls.
CJ: That's even better, you're improvising.
JB: For me it's not that hard, they have these certain cues for you to drop in and you get in there and just build a run.
CD: Bottom line, you get paid to skate, that rules.
JB: I don't get paid a lot, I guess it's the economy. It just seems weird to get paid.
CD: Yeah well the economy is effecting everybody in some way, we are all pretty fortunate at the moment though. Do you feel guilty about all of the people that are losing their shit?
JB: Guilty? I don't feel guilty. Why should I feel guilty about people who live beyond their means?
CD: Well not everyone who is struggling is trying to live beyond their means...
JB: Yeah but you have all these people out there balling, trying to have that baller status, with the baller houses on the beach, down in Newport, but now they are all for sale, for rent, foreclosed...
CJ: Empty pools!
JB: Empty pools, yeah more of those.
CD: Well then maybe there's a positive side to it all?
JB: Isn't there kind of a drought going right now too? Hey dude, are we done?
CD: Dude, no, we aren't even done, we've barely begun.
JB: (groaning)
CD: We have to do the whole thing, you knew that going in buddy. So are you into skating the contests or are you going to go for that underground guy status, where you pop up every once in a while and blow minds and then just disappear again for a while?
JB: I want to just skate, I don't think I would try to hide from anyone, and I like contests, it's fun to hang out with your friends, travel with them and skate, when it's like that it's cool. Sometimes the whole vibe can get ruined, some people just get so focused. You're there skating with your friends, but sometimes it gets serious, guys get competitive and harsh.
CD: Well you told us that you get pretty competitive yourself in those situations...
JB: Yeah but it's never going to get to that point where I'm just going to be a dick, not even talk to a person because of that competitive thing. You can be out there skating with these guys every day, having fun and then all of the sudden a couple of guys might come up and just be so serious, I don't even understand it sometimes. Why can't you come up here and skate with your friends and enjoy it? It just can ruin the vibe of a session, and every contest is a session, just organized and with money.
CD: Is it the same people every time, or does it shift among different people?
JB: Just different people, different situations...
CJ: It can even be different combinations of people that set off a certain vibe right?
JB: Everybody has vibes you know, some people just have bad ones sometimes.
CJ: I've skated together with Tony Mag and McGill and it was a good vibe, but if you suddenly dropped Rune Glifberg in there, it might get a little unruly.
JB: Yeah it's different almost every day, one day somebody will be super fun to skate with, they'll get in there and be pumping you up, getting you to push harder. Then, the next day they might show up super serious with the game face on, and it's not even the contest. Just chill.
CD: Well you're the threat, you're one of the young guys coming up. Do you feel a vibe like these guys are thinking "oh shit, this kid is coming in here to try and take my spot"?
JB: I don't think it's like that. When I started skating the Vans park, it was insane, all of the crazy Brazilians, Evandro, Lincoln, Sandro, Bob was coming out... Cristiano Mateus, and there would just be crazy brazilian nights. Omar was always there, Neal Hendrix was there, some of those sessions were like 15 of the gnarliest dudes, Jake Brown would be in there. Skating with all of those guys motivated me. When you're always skating with people who are amping you up, pushing you, you start wanting to sort of one-up them you know? To prove yourself.
Josh getting high and tight in the Wormhoudt Wave, Santa Cruz.
Indy slash tap, Pedro.
CJ: What was it like at Bucky's with those heavy guys?
JB: Bucky's was crazy, I went there the first time and it was Miller, Bucky, Omar. I went there, and I expected to just see those guys destroy it right off the bat, just go huge. But it's the biggest pool that's ever been built, 13 1/2 feet, with an 8 foot shallow that goes to vert, just to get started I wanted to get in there and just get some grinds and feel it out. Miller was going off, like he skated it forever, Bucky was ripping, everybody else was still trying to get used to it.
CD: Miller grew up skating Upland, that pool was all bad, huge coping, tons of vert, kinks, the whole deal, but he mastered it.
CJ: To people who witnessed Miller riding it, they could argue he was the best skater ever.
JB: I used to skate a lot with his son Zach...
CJ: Miller Lite!
JB: I used to skate all of the ASA contests with Zach, it was a really long time ago. We were out in DC, we went up to skate this vert contest and got invited to a pool. Miller got in there and just started killing it, huge frontside airs in a backyard pool, and he was talking about how he was hurt, his knee was messed up. Yeah right... he was just killing it, he's just a natural.
CD: Are you stoked on that progression, from flat wall vert ramps to Bucky's bowl, big concrete bowls?
JB: I don't know if it matters really, we could double that, build bowls twice that size probably and guys would rip it. I actually have just as much fun skating the small stuff, small, tight stuff, like this little garage bowl we're sitting in right here. Chad Jackson's! It's small, tiny even, whatever, but this kind of stuff is so challenging, you really have to think differently to figure out lines, it makes you think 10 times faster. Everything comes at you right now.
CD: Well you have always talked about how you just love to skate it all, anything that you see that looks fun. That's a really healthy attitude man.
JB: Yeah.
CD: So are you saying that you like Bucky's or is is it scary, intimidating, boring, challenging...
JB: I think that it's fun, at first it just seems huge, but you start doing things and stop thinking about how big it really is, you push yourself and it just starts getting way more fun. It's crazy, it almost feels like megaramp quarter pipe size at first, going up that wall is just insane. But with Bucky's I can totally understand why he wanted to do it, it feels really good after you warm up to it. It is pretty much perfect for what it is.
CD: Well maybe we have to get you up to Mammoth on a fishing trip, mix in some big stuff with the little stuff.
JB: I just went on a fishing trip.
CD: Where? In the ocean?
JB: All day on a boat. Off of Dana Point. Fishing is sick. I love fishing.
CJ: You ever go out with Bellmar?
JB: No but I heard he's gnarly, he makes money on it.
CJ: He rakes it in, he's a serious angler.
JB: I used to skate Vans with Bellmar all the time, and then just recently I got his number and I've been skating at his house.
CJ: You ever see him ride his motorcycle in there? He can get in there and take a run and then jump out over the channel onto the deck.
JB: Really? A motorcycle in there? That's sick. He's gnarly on that trail stuff, I know that.
CD: I heard he came out of the house and heckled you the other day...
JB: About what?
CD: About not making that stunt you were trying... the one you have gone back to get how many times now?
JB: (laughing) Dude, 3 times, but yeah he heckled me a little. It's cool. I think I needed it. That pool, when the sun is shining is just so bright, I was just feeling like a zombie, it was so hot.
CD: You'll get it next time. So what's it going to be about? Are you just going to keep being a non-pro pro, are you going to step up to the plate and get extreme? What are you going to do?
JB: I want to keep skating, procrastinating, I don't know. Skate and Procrastinate.
CD: That would make a sick shirt. Skate and Procrastinate. Done in that Stecyk lettering...
JB: No, not procrastinate...
CD Well, what are you trying to say?
JB: Progress.
CD: Skate and Progress? That sounds like a tracker shirt. We can't have that...
JB: Yeah, skate and motherfucking shred, that's it right there.
CD: So as you've been motherfucking shredding, when you were coming up, you started getting some affirmation from the pros down at Vans or out at Upland, who did it mean the most coming from.
JB: Oh man, I don't know. Probably Omar. I started skating with Omar a lot and he pushed me along.
CD: Who did you think was the shit?
JB: Michael Jackson?
CD: Yeah? You told us in the van that you once spent a week at the Neverland ranch, but then you later re-canted I want to know why.
JB: I don't know, I just wanted to see what you guys thought, I wanted a reaction, really.
CD: Would you feel safer staying there now that he's dead? Or would you be worried that the ghost of Michael Jackson would sneak in and try and perpetrate some bad shit?
JB: Billie Jean...
CD: Is not my lover, she's just the girl... Oh man that question went nowhere...
JB: Next.
CJ: How about bromance with bromar?
CD: and the brozilians?
JB: Whatever.
CD: You got your high school diploma and all of that, you were being a college student for a bit, are you still doing that?
JB: No. At least I haven't gone back this year yet, but I will.
(A portion of the interview is deleted here as it deals with hearsay, rumors that have yet to be substantiated. Josh's phone keeps getting texts throughout this conversation, we finally called him on it.)
CD: Who keeps texting you, and who are you texting?
JB: My girlfriend.
CD: What did you just say to her?
JB: (mumbling) That I love her...
CJ: Well I guess that answers the next question, you're into girls right?
JB: Of course.
CD: Do we need to check? I mean we know you're into some rollerblader chick from the show at Knott's...
JB: Dude, she's just gnarly, but I'm not into her at all.
CJ: Not down for the cheerleader type.
CD: Damn boy, you're still texting her... must be serious.
JB: Whatever.
CD: Okay let's get back on point here, put the phone away. So if and when your first pro model comes out, what do you want the graphic to be?
JB: My homies chillin'. (laughter)
CJ: Already been done.
JB: Nah, more like O.G. powerful shit. I don't know.
CD: Well isn't it something you've thought about? Suddenly someone offers you a model and you're saying "Oh shit, I don't know what it should be"?
JB: Well I heard that a lot of people don't have any control over what gets picked.
CD: That's not true. It depends a lot on how involved you want to be, when I worked at DLX, every dude came in with ideas and we worked with them on all of them unless it was just something totally horrible.
JB: Maybe you should do it.
CD: We're not talking about that part of it, I'm just curious what you want to do, and yeah I'm fully putting you on the spot.
JB: Okay. A Big Mac™.
CD: A Big Mac™???
JB: Yeah, with me standing on top of it, holding my skateboard, with the seeds stacked up in a pyramid, and me on top of the seeds. And there's Lil' Wayne playing in the background, you know?
CD, CJ: (laughs) Oh man, that's so fucked up! But it's so rad, that's one skateboard graphic that's NEVER been done!
JB: Yeah with Lil' Wayne just chilling in the background.
CJ: Sick! A lot of stuff has been so many times but that...
JB: Wait, I saw that Anti Hero board with the freedom fries...
CD: Yeah, but not a Big Mac™.
JB: I don't eat at McDonalds but I guess I have it once in a while... What else are you going to eat at 2 in the morning?
CD: True, I guess.
JB: Anyways that graphic, I just closed my eyes and said the first stupid shit I imagined.
CD: That's how good ideas get started though, in a way.
JB: It's like a graphic somebody would come up with after smoking a bunch of weed.
CD: Do you think someone would need to smoke a bunch of weed to understand that graphic?
JB: Let's not talk about smoking weed or not smoking weed.
CD: Okay, let's not.
Note: At this point, a 2 AM Jack in the Box run was requested, after eating a #2 combo Josh was worthless for further comment, so we started in again on the way home.
Josh navigates a 90 degree flight through a crusty corner.
CD: Okay how about some more mundane shit. What is your favorite color?
JB: Red.
CD Light beer or...
JB: I'm not even 21 fuckers.
CD: Okay milk or...
JB: What?
CD: Okay seriously, who is hooking you up right now, skatewise, we know you have the girl thing handled.
JB: Vans, Santa Cruz, Indy, Protec, Mom and Dad...
CD: What energy drink do you represent?
JB: What are energy drinks?
CD: There you go.
60's era pool. 70's trick named for Art Dickey. 80's pig of a board. And a sort of 90's looking fence. 21st century man wrecks the 20th century conventions.
CD: So how did you get the hook-up with Santa Cruz?
JB: My friend Josh Stafford was hooked up with them, and he was always saying how much of a "roots" company they were, that they have been around from the beginning. They were one of the bigest companies if not THE biggest. I always liked the style they had and the guys who rode for them. Anyways, Josh gave me Jordan's (Santa Cruz TM) number, and from there I just started sending him footage, and he sent me out a package, and it's just progressing from there. I'm just on flow but I'm super psyched.
CD: So when do you get the screaming hand tattoo?
JB: Not the screaming hand, I think there are better graphics for a tattoo...
CD: What's the best Santa Cruz graphic you've ever seen?
JB: I was trying to figure that out yesterday looking at all of the boards from their history on the walls in there. I always liked the Salba tiger, and the Grosso devil bat. I think Jeff might have it tattooed on him. I know Mumma's got one.
CD: It's really cool that you are hooked up with the guys at Santa Cruz, They have one of the richest histories in all of skateboarding. They were one of the companies that kept it going when skateboarding pretty much died, a couple of times. Those guys persevere, and that's such a rare thing. They are dedicated. Period.
JB: You think of the word original. If it's shoes, there's Vans. If it's skateboards, there's Santa Cruz. They had the best team for the longest time. Just the raw-est dudes, Jeff Grosso, Dressen, Knox, Rob Rosk...
CD: Hey, you fading out?(laughter)
JB: (laughter)
CD: Keep going. You've got Olson, Duane, and Salba. The first punk rock guys, the first really gnarly bowl skaters after the Dogtown guys. That history is all tied in there, it's etched in.
Focused by skating, not by Rocco marketing techniques.
See?
CD: So how many years into this are you and what got you into it?
JB: One year I got 2 boards for christmas, one was this super crappy set-up, but I also got this other one, it was still crappy, it was from Target™, but it was better than the other one. I just started cruising around the block with all of my friends, we started skating the ledges behind my house, manual pads. Then I got a 1/4 pipe and it just evolved from there, just skating with the neighbor kids.
CD: How about when you first started to go to the skatepark?
JB: The first time, I was a little kid I went there (Vans Orange) in my P.J.'s. My parents went to the mall with me and they were talking about this new skatepark in there. I remember it was 9:00, past my bedtime, I went in there and it was just crazy. I was just this tired little kid but I was psyched. My grandma bought me my first pass there. I started skating there and I haven't ever stopped since. It was when tech decks were big, It was hilarious just thinking how tech decks came to be, all these kids at the mall were playing with tech decks, we were just skating, I don't even get how they are still trying to push it. That's not skateboarding.
CD: Speaking of what is skateboarding, would you prefer a backyard pool, a street spot or some handrail, what kind of stuff do you like?
JB: I really like skating things that have different lines to them. Not something that's limited, something that has stuff you can work with in more than just one way.
CD: More transition-based?
JB: It's not the only thing I skate, I skate street, I just really try not to limit myself. I like being able to ride what I feel like, when I feel like it.
CD: Who are your favorite guys to skate with?
JB: I don't know, everybody is fun to skate with, anyone who shows up. Are you talking about the vibes you get from people? I don't know, it's ever really about who is ripping the hardest or snaking the hardest to me, more just about skating with friends.
CD: Is there one guy who can really stir up a session and get it going?
JB: Too many rad guys to mention, I can't say just one.
CD: How about guys who can really fuck up a session and blow it?
JB: Yeah well, everybody knows who that is, I don't need to point the finger, you know who you are.
CD:(laughing) Good, safe answer, Josh.
JB: I just want those good vibrations man.
CD: Who has influenced you the most?
JB: Oh man... Bob, Tony, Bucky, Rune, all of the top guys, I grew up skating vert surrounded by those dudes. Lincoln and all of the Brasilians too. Then when I started skating the Combi a lot I started meeting the gnarly dudes, Hewitt, Omar, the guys who skate the super gnarly stuff too, stuff that was never meant for skateboarding, Navarrete and the Creature dudes, all those guys are a big influence. Also, the Bacon team, I was out at some pool by the 91, some busted down house and those guys just showed up and destroyed it, and it was a really hard pool to skate.
Stationary tail stollie into a rather treacherous pit.
CD: Where do you think you'll find yourself in 2 years?
JB: Wow, I guess just doing as much skateboarding as I can, maybe surf a little bit if the waves are up, and traveling.
CD: Where has skateboarding taken you in terms of traveling?
JB: Lots of places, Italy, Canada, Costa Rica, all over the states, New Zealand, Australia, Japan. It's been a good experience so far. I'm really thankful that Vans has taken me on so many trips.
CD: So we tried to keep this thing with you out of the skateparks entirely, by our design and your request, to get some unique stuff. Are you over the whole skatepark thing?
JB: I don't know, anybody can skate at a skatepark I guess, I just don't really want a skatepark photo, especially if it's some park where you have wear helmets and pads to skate some little stuff.
CD: We're sure that the things you want to skate sort of change on a daily basis, but is the skatepark even on your radar at this point?
JB: I'm always on the hunt for new pools, anything different. If I get the chance to go skate some new spots, I'm not going to pass that up. If that's kind of failing I can always fall back on the skatepark, or a backyard pool I've been hitting for a while, I like to keep it fresh.
CD: Have you ever thought about building something of your own?
JB: Yeah I have, there's an abandoned railroad track behind our house, they took the track out years ago. It's the "back 40", a pretty good sized piece of land. I'd like to start putting something together back there, maybe a little bowl, with a spine, something cool, maybe have concrete and half wood. Maybe like Idaho's compound, sort of piece it together, not do it all at once, but slowly. I think the best stuff is when you take your time and sort of let it grow, take the time to figure out exactly what you want.
7 ball in the side pocket, Josh gets high at Chad's.
CD: What did you think of those 2 garage ramps we just skated?
JB: Those things are sick! It totally inspired me to get my thing going. I can't believe that cradle in that ramp, and that over vert pocket. Nice.
CD: When we first got there were you thinking it was just ridiculous, or did it just immediately get you hyped? That stuff is so gnarly.
JB: When we first showed up, I just thought it was so rad, so much detail to those ramps, and there's only so much room, those were just single-car garages right?
CD: Yep. Chad's is badass, and the other one was insane...
JB: So rad, so much in there, the porno pool tiles even. Never seen that before, those things were both so much fun. Definitely a challenge.
1 car garage bowls are all the rage in semi-rainy norcal. Josh rocks the cradle.
CD: What else have we got to cover with you?
JB: How about if I ask you guys some questions?
CD: Okay, go right ahead.
JB: What do you guys think of all of these skateparks being built now? You guys were around when the first ones were here.
CD: I think it's good because it's changing the way skaters are. For the longest time, you were either a street skater or you were a vert skater. Now it seems as if maybe it's beginning to come back around to where you're just a skateboarder. You said it earlier, you like to skate everything, you don't choose to classify yourself.
JB: Do you think it's coming back to where transition is going to be fully respected by the magazines?
CD: Slowly. I think it's coming... but the ad money is mostly still street-driven, and that influences content when you're trying to keep your mag going.
JB: The magazines aren't really pushing it...
CD: Well I just picked up a magazine and in it was a picture of Koston doing a big frontside air in a bowl. It is coming, it's happening. The industry might be fucked because of the economy, but I think it's a really good time to be a skateboarder, there's so much shit to skate. I have talked to street skaters who say it's getting harder to be a street skater, shit is getting shut down harder now.
JB: What about stuff like the Berrics?
CD: The Berrics is just a skatepark though, indoors, sanctioned, built for skateboarding. It's designed around that type of skating but it doesn't contain that raw element of true street skating, the element of danger or arrest or getting hit by a car. The Berrics is such a sick concept and the riding that goes down is amazing. But I think really, with the concrete parks now that combine street and transition elements, there is going to be more of a crossover. That's what I'd like to see anyways. It all comes back to marketing. Most if not all of the Girl team for example, can rip transition, it's just not part of how they are marketed. The guys who can't crossover will fail, maybe even quit and become rap stars, you know. You are safe in that department, though. You'll survive it, maybe even lead the way.
JB: Yeah?
CD: Oh yeah. Any last words? Is there anything else you feel like you want to get off of your chest?
JB: I just want to thank everybody, Vans, Indy, Santa Cruz, Protec, and my family. Thanks everybody!
Parting shot. On the doorstep to the Sierras, Josh clicks a big one to fakie.
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Saturday 12th 2009f September 2009 06:25
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